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Quiz Night – Teams Required

September 7, 2010
by sonsteam

OK, folks with our 10th Quiz Night on the horizon and approaching fast, there is a severe lack of teams registered for the event!

We can’t let the milestone anniversary go by with a whimper, so if you can rustle up a team of 6, let us know as soon as possible.

Cheers!

SSFC Lose to Rangers

September 6, 2010
by sonsteam

SONS Supporters FC - sponsored by sonstrust.net – lost their INTER-league cup tie yesterday (10-2) to the more experienced and curiously named 10m Rangers team.

Despite the disparity in the scoreline, the lads are not too downhearted as Andy Scott explains : “We can expect a few disappointments as we start out, but the main thing is that we are enjoying the journey and playing together.

“The common bond is our trust membership and support of Dumbarton FC.

“I think our coaches know how Sons gaffer Chappie feels!”

Sunday’s team was : Craig Love : John Donnelly (Bryan McMurtie), Steven Kerr, Robert Faulds, Scott Mackie : Darren Mahoney (Grant Meikle), Andrew Burrows, Andrew Mcculloch (Ross Black), Allan Jamieson : David Ferguson (scored and pictured), Ian McEwan (scored) : Subs,  not used : Steven Collins, Gavin Butler
 
 
Photo by Gavin Butler

Advertise in the Sons View

September 5, 2010
by sonsteam

OUR programme sales team are on the lookout for local businesses or organisations to take up advertising spaces in this season’s Sons View (DFC Matchday programme).

Discount rates are now available and anyone looking to promote their company to over 20,000 people, please get in touch with us using our e-mail address as follows – secy@sonstrust.net

We look forward to hearing from you.

Meet the Manager

September 4, 2010
by sonsteam

SONS gaffer Jim Chapman has agreed to face the fans in a meet the manager session. The date for your diary is Saturday 11th September and it will take place in the supporters bar at SHS.

The Trust will be organising and moderating the event. For more details, click through the Club’s official website at www.dumbartonfootballclub.com

International Break

September 1, 2010
by sonsteam

International weekend coming up which means a break from league action for Sons.

Perhaps just as well given recent form! How sore was that East Fife defeat? Time to make sure that you have renewed or joined the Trust.

We need a vibrant membership to make a difference behind the scenes at DFC. If you haven’t received your renewal pack or if you would like one sent out to you as a potential new shareholder, drop an e-mail to secy@sonstrust.net or alternatively leave a comment on this post.

The more members we have, the stronger our boardroom voice at DFC  is. Only £10 per season to be a shareholder in DFC!

Brilliant! What are you waiting for?

QUIZ LEAGUE – PLAYERS WANTED!

August 27, 2010
by andrewg31

LOCAL radio presenter and Stranraer fan Mike McLean has been in touch with details of the Glasgow Stranraer Supporters Club’s quiz league, which starts next month.

And the Sons Supporters Trust is looking for players for its squad as it bids to make it a double, having won the club’s inaugural sports quiz in January.

Squads of up to eight can be registered, with four players taking part on any one night. Quizzes will take place at Dow’s Bar, opposite Glasgow Queen Street station, on the third Thursday evening of every month.

Other clubs with fans’ teams taking part include Hamilton Accies, Airdrie United, Elgin City and, of course, Stranraer.  Each club will ‘host’ one of the quiz nights, compiling their own questions. Dumbarton will be hosts on Thursday, November 18.

The first event will take place on Thursday, September 16. The January event was a fun evening, and no doubt Mike will ensure that the league nights are the same.

Interested? We hope so. To register your interest in taking part, leave a comment below.

Fans Fixture List Available

August 25, 2010
by sonsteam

The Scottish Supporters Football League has issued the first set of fixtures invloving the Sons Supporters team – sponsored by www.sonstrust.net - and they are available to view via the club’s dedicated page – link at the top of this site.

Best of luck to the lads for the campaign ahead!

Trust Travel – East Fife

August 23, 2010
by sonsteam

SONS fans can now book their seat on the Trust Travel bus to New Bayview (28th August) by leaving a comment on this post.

Alternatively, drop and e-mail to secy@sonstrust.net or call 07710 771 341

TRUST SPONSOR FANS TEAM

August 5, 2010
by sonsteam

What a motley crew, above, eh? Well, not really – this fine body of men (?) are the newly formed Sons Supporters Football Club and all members of the Sonstrust. 

The Trust Board have agreed to sponsor the team in their first season which is just about to start. The agreement was recently signed by Andy Scott, Trust Board Member and Alan Smith, manager and coach of the team and will see ‘sonstrust.net’ appear on the front of the new club shirts for the 2010/11 season.

Surridge, current kit supplier to Dumbarton FC, provided the strips in another example of the professional football club and the fans working together.

Andy Scott said: “We are absolutely delighted to sponsor the fans team and it’s another community initiative for the trust to be proud of.”

“As all players in the team are trust members, it made sense to approach the board of our members organisation to ask for help ,” said Alan Smith, Manager of the team. “The supporters trust exist to help its members and we are delighted, and proud to be wearing the colours of DFC in our inaugural season.”

The club will play in the Scottish Supporters Football League, with games taking place on Sundays.

New Stadiums (2)

July 9, 2010
by sonsteam

Dr John continues with his thoughts on clubs looking to build new stadiums – see our June 28 posting.

Again, it’s an interesting and thought-provoking read.

Pop on over to see what we mean – http://footballmanagement.wordpress.com/ or read the text, below.

[See also The trouble with new stadiums 1, which looked at the argument that "We’re a club with ambition and we need more seats to reflect that ambition".]

The second case put for building a new stadium is:

We’ve got the wrong sort of stadium.  We need one better suited to maximising our revenue streams.
The first part of this argument I have no real problem with.  Virtually all English football stadiums are either ‘new’ (less than twenty years old) or ‘old’ (from the Victorian era), and, if your club’s stadium is in the latter category, then it is almost certainly suboptimal for players, fans and revenue generation.  Remember, I’m a Pompey fan, and Fratton Park was a disgrace for a Premier League stadium.

‘We need a better one’ in these circumstances can then seem perfectly reasonable.  However, there are two key questions a club needs to ask itself: a) Can we afford it? and b) Is this the most effective way of maximising revenue streams?

I suspect that in 99 cases out 100 the answer to the first question is a resounding ‘No!’.  Show me the clubs which already have the financial reserves to consider spending on a new stadium!  The new stadium will have to be financed, and if the club is worried about failing to maximise its revenue streams it needs to have a cast iron case that new revenue streams will be sufficient to even cover the cost of the loans needed to finance the new stadium.  Of course there will be exceptions, but it is worth bearing mind that even Arsenal, with a clear need for a bigger stadium and a sound business plan to finance it, have struggled because of the drop in house prices, and the subsequent difficulty in selling the houses on the stadium site.

If you want to maximise your revenue streams, the basic strategy model which is used for deciding the best way to grow your business is one called Ansoff’s Matrix.  This model considers whether to look at existing or new customers, and existing or new markets.  (There is a useful visual representation here which makes it much easier to follow.)  The 2×2 nature of the matrix results in four possible strategies, each with differing levels of risk.

The safest is ‘market penetration‘ – developing the sales of existing products to existing customers.  In other words, the simplest and most effective growth strategy for the vast majority of clubs, which have empty seats on a match day, is to try and get more bums on seats.  Clubs like FC United of Manchester have tried interesting tactics with pricing to achieve this, such as varying the price that fans pay to get a season ticket (see 1 for a discussion of imaginative ticket pricing, and 2 for FCUM’s approach).  Experimenting with different pricing strategies, such as BOGOF (buy-one-get-one-free), is quick, easy, low risk, and provides a useful indication of whether growth is possible – if you can’t get more bums on seats with this kind of approach, where’s the rationale for a new, bigger stadium?

Next two to consider, of medium risk, are:

Product development – developing new products for existing customers – In other words you find new goods or services to sell to your existing fans.  I’ve blogged before (see On clubs and club shops) on what I see as an unimaginitive range of merchandising that club shops offer, and clubs could do a lot more with this medium-risk strategy that does not require vast capital investment.


Market development – developing finding new markets for the existing products – In other words you recruit new fans.  Clubs do make efforts here, trying to encourage whole families to attend games for example.  More could be done, and again without vast capital investment.
The final strategy is the one with the highest risk – Diversification, in other words, moving into to some other area to find new customers to buy new products.  It’s here that the new stadium certainly raises it’s ugly head – without a new stadium we don’t have the right facilities to be able to do this, the proponents moan.  Of course, they are right, but they fail to recognise the attendant problems.  The problems with this case are twofold.

The first is the obvious argument that it is the highest risk strategy, and comes at the highest cost.  It simply does not make sense to attempt it until all the lower risk, lower cost strategies have been tried.

The second problem arises with what exactly the new products to be sold to new customers are.  A good rule of thumb is that the nearer the ‘fit’ with the existing product – in our case, football matches – and the nearer the fit withthe market – in our case, football fans – the better, the lower the new risk.  Why, oh why, then, do clubs who pursue this strategy look to build a new stadium complex with a hotel, restaurants or shops?  Could it just be that they think they are already in these businesses through their experience in ‘hospitality’?  I would suggest that there is a gulf of blue water between ‘pies & bovril’ and even prawn sandwiches, and I know I’m not alone in this view! 

Similarly they see themselves as involved in ‘events management’ and see a connection between operating on match days and running conferences.  As someone who attends both, I would again argue that there is deep blue water between attending a football match and attending a four-day conference – they are world apart in terms of customers and the service these customers are looking for.  I would argue that the poorness of fit is every bit as big as it is with running a supermarket.  In a nutshell, building the new stadium with a conference centre attached is as sensible as an existing conference centre which is in poor financial shape deciding to build a new conference centre with a football stadium attached to ‘maximise revenue streams’.  Even if you sub-contract the running of the new business ventures, you’ve set up two poorly fitting businesses on the same site – not a recipe for success.

I’m sure you realise, and I readily, that I am generalising (and I’ll be looking at some exceptions in a later posting).  There is one way of lowering the risk in a diversification strategy, and that is to diversify into something which, for example, the owner is experienced, an area in which he made his fortune which is he is in danger of turning into a small fortune.  That is, with one major exception, which I will be looking at in my next posting in this series.  To give a wee hint as to what I see as the one exception that does not reduce the club’s risk, I’ll just remind you of the third case that is put when a new stadium is proposed:

“There’s this amazing property deal we can do.  We’ll sell the old stadium for redevelopment and there’ll be loads of money to build the new one.”